Francisco Alvarez or Sebastian Rivero

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Francisco Alvarez or Sebastian Rivero Player Statistics
	Francisco Alvarez C,DH - NYM	Sebastian Rivero C - LAA
2026 Stats


At Bats	367	53

Runs	37	5

Hits	87	13

Singles	57	11

Doubles	14	2

Triples	0	0

Home Runs	16	0

RBI	42	8

Stolen Bases	0	0

Caught Stealing	0	0

Walks	38	3

Strikeouts	126	12

Batting Average	.237	.245

On Base Pct	.315	.286

Slugging Pct	.406	.283

On-base Plus Slugging	.721	.569

Francisco Alvarez or Sebastian Rivero Player Projections
	Francisco Alvarez C,DH - NYM	Sebastian Rivero C - LAA
2026 Projections


At Bats	365	25

Runs	49	2

Hits	86	5

Singles	52	4

Doubles	15	1

Triples	1	0

Home Runs	19	0

RBI	55	2

Stolen Bases	1	0

Caught Stealing	0	0

Walks	38	1

Strikeouts	106	6

Batting Average	.236	.196

On Base Pct	.307	.236

Slugging Pct	.433	.277

On-base Plus Slugging	.740	.513

Francisco Alvarez or Sebastian Rivero Player Notes
	Francisco Alvarez C,DH - NYM	Sebastian Rivero C - LAA
News
	Francisco Alvarez went 1-for-3 with a home run, a walk, two runs scored and an RBI in Sunday's 11-1 win over the Pittsburgh Pirates. Nicholas Rodriguez Mon, Aug 10th	The Angels activated C Sebastián Rivero from the 60-day injured list and optioned him to Triple-A Salt Lake. Ari Koslow Sun, Aug 30th
	The Mets are reportedly shopping Francisco Alvarez in a trade. Ari Koslow Mon, Jul 27th	The Angels transferred C Sebastián Rivero to 60-day injured list. Ari Koslow Sat, Aug 15th
	Francisco Alvarez went 1-for-3 with a solo home run in Friday's 4-2 loss against the Los Angeles Dodgers. Nicholas Rodriguez Fri, Jul 24th	The Angels pulled Sebastian Rivero off his rehab assignment. Ari Koslow Wed, Aug 12th
	Francisco Alvarez went 2-for-3 in Thursday’s win over the Phillies with two solo home runs and one walk. Chris Schommer Sat, Jul 18th	Sebastian Rivero resumed his rehab assignment on Tuesday. Ari Koslow Fri, Aug 7th
	Francisco Alvarez went 2-for-4 with a home run and three RBI in Tuesday’s 9-6 loss to the Cubs. He drove in the Mets’ first two runs with a two-run single in his first plate appearance before adding a 403-foot solo homer off Phil Maton in the seventh inning. Bruno Mulé Wed, Jun 24th	The Angels transferred Sebastian Rivero's rehab assignment to Single-A Rancho. Ari Koslow Tue, Jul 28th
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Francisco Alvarez or Sebastian Rivero Player Schedules
Date	Opp	Opp Pitcher	VBR	Opp	Opp Pitcher	VBR
	Francisco Alvarez C,DH - NYM			Sebastian Rivero C - LAA
Thu, Mar 26th	vs PIT	Paul Skenes (10-11)	#9	@ HOU	Hunter Brown (6-3)	#20
Sat, Mar 28th	vs PIT	Mitch Keller (6-8)		@ HOU	Cristian Javier (2-6)	#169
Sun, Mar 29th	vs PIT	Carmen Mlodzinski (8-7)	#84	@ HOU	Tatsuya Imai (6-4)	#179
Mon, Mar 30th	@ STL	Kyle Leahy (10-5)	#64	@ CHC	Edward Cabrera (5-5)	#197
Tue, Mar 31st	@ STL	Andre Pallante (12-8)	#94	@ CHC	Jameson Taillon (2-6)
Wed, Apr 1st	@ STL	Matthew Liberatore (6-14)	#90	@ CHC	Matthew Boyd (9-5)	#50
Thu, Apr 2nd	@ SF	Robbie Ray (13-8)	#127
Fri, Apr 3rd	@ SF	Tyler Mahle (7-10)	#53	vs SEA	Bryan Woo (12-9)	#3
Sat, Apr 4th	@ SF	Landen Roupp (9-14)	#102	vs SEA	Emerson Hancock (7-8)	#174
Sun, Apr 5th	@ SF	Logan Webb (8-9)		vs SEA	Luis Castillo (4-11)	#161
Tue, Apr 7th	vs ARI	Zac Gallen (3-9)	#122	vs ATL	Reynaldo Lopez (4-5)
Wed, Apr 8th	vs ARI	Ryne Nelson (3-5)	#184	vs ATL	Grant Holmes (10-5)	#148
Thu, Apr 9th	vs ARI	Eduardo Rodriguez (15-7)	#86
Fri, Apr 10th	vs ATH	J.T. Ginn (9-8)		@ CIN	Chase Burns (15-3)
Sat, Apr 11th	vs ATH	Jacob Lopez (6-5)	#267	@ CIN	Brandon Williamson (5-4)	#292
Sun, Apr 12th	vs ATH	Aaron Civale (6-7)	#152	@ CIN	Andrew Abbott (6-11)	#131
Mon, Apr 13th	@ LAD	Justin Wrobleski (12-5)	#51	@ NYY	Will Warren (10-6)	#89
Tue, Apr 14th	@ LAD	Yoshinobu Yamamoto (14-9)	#6	@ NYY	Ryan Weathers (5-8)	#171
Wed, Apr 15th	@ LAD	Shohei Ohtani (8-2)	#8	@ NYY	Luis Gil (1-2)	#166
Fri, Apr 17th	@ CHC	Edward Cabrera (5-5)	#197	vs SD	Matt Waldron (2-2)
Sat, Apr 18th	@ CHC	Jameson Taillon (2-6)		vs SD	German Marquez (4-2)
Sun, Apr 19th	@ CHC	Javier Assad (6-1)	#206	vs SD	Michael King (12-10)	#43
Tue, Apr 21st	vs MIN	Simeon Woods Richardson (2-7)		vs TOR	Patrick Corbin (3-4)
Wed, Apr 22nd	vs MIN	Connor Prielipp (6-7)	#59	vs TOR	Eric Lauer (8-7)
Thu, Apr 23rd	vs MIN	Joe Ryan (6-10)	#36
Fri, Apr 24th	vs COL	Michael Lorenzen (3-13)		@ KC	Noah Cameron (9-8)	#81
Sun, Apr 26th	vs COL	Chase Dollander (3-3)		@ KC	Seth Lugo (7-9)	#218
Tue, Apr 28th	vs WSH	Zack Littell (8-8)	#214	@ CWS	Davis Martin (9-7)	#96
Wed, Apr 29th	vs WSH	Cade Cavalli (13-5)	#48	@ CWS	Erick Fedde (8-9)	#252
Thu, Apr 30th	vs WSH	Miles Mikolas (3-9)
Fri, May 1st	@ LAA	Walbert Urena (9-11)	#113	vs NYM	Christian Scott (4-5)	#29
Sat, May 2nd	@ LAA	Reid Detmers (6-8)	#34	vs NYM	Nolan McLean (12-10)	#16
Sun, May 3rd	@ LAA	Jack Kochanowicz (2-5)		vs NYM	Clay Holmes (6-8)	#82
Mon, May 4th	@ COL	Tomoyuki Sugano (12-11)	#336	vs CWS	Davis Martin (9-7)	#96
Wed, May 6th	@ COL	Michael Lorenzen (3-13)		vs CWS	Noah Schultz (4-9)	#191
Thu, May 7th	@ COL	Jose Quintana (2-3)	#340
Fri, May 8th	@ ARI	Ryne Nelson (3-5)	#184	@ TOR	Dylan Cease (11-6)	#128
Sat, May 9th	@ ARI	Merrill Kelly (10-14)	#182	@ TOR	Trey Yesavage (5-5)	#76
Sun, May 10th	@ ARI	Eduardo Rodriguez (15-7)	#86	@ TOR	Spencer Miles (6-2)	#67
Tue, May 12th	vs DET	Jack Flaherty (3-8)	#93	@ CLE	Slade Cecconi (5-7)	#230
Wed, May 13th	vs DET	Framber Valdez (10-12)	#74	@ CLE	Parker Messick (12-9)	#35
Thu, May 14th	vs DET	Keider Montero (10-9)	#107
Fri, May 15th	vs NYY	Cam Schlittler (14-6)	#14	vs LAD	Will Klein (3-4)
Sat, May 16th	vs NYY	Carlos Rodon (7-3)	#33	vs LAD	Justin Wrobleski (12-5)	#51
Sun, May 17th	vs NYY	Elmer Rodriguez (0-3)	#125	vs LAD	Roki Sasaki (5-5)	#183
Mon, May 18th	@ WSH	Jake Irvin (2-9)	#142	vs ATH	J.T. Ginn (9-8)
Tue, May 19th	@ WSH	Foster Griffin (15-6)	#37	vs ATH	Jacob Lopez (6-5)	#267
Wed, May 20th	@ WSH	Zack Littell (8-8)	#214	vs ATH	Aaron Civale (6-7)	#152
Thu, May 21st	@ WSH	Cade Cavalli (13-5)	#48	vs ATH	Luis Severino (2-6)
Fri, May 22nd	@ MIA	Eury Perez (7-11)	#55	vs TEX	Jacob deGrom (11-10)	#5
Sat, May 23rd	@ MIA	Max Meyer (9-1)		vs TEX	Nathan Eovaldi (11-10)	#65
Sun, May 24th	@ MIA	Tyler Phillips (5-6)	#136	vs TEX	MacKenzie Gore (8-11)	#27
Mon, May 25th	vs CIN	Nick Lodolo (3-6)	#153
Tue, May 26th	vs CIN	Chase Burns (15-3)		@ DET	Keider Montero (10-9)	#107
Wed, May 27th	vs CIN	Andrew Abbott (6-11)	#131	@ DET	Casey Mize (6-9)	#38
Fri, May 29th	vs MIA	Max Meyer (9-1)		@ TB	Nick Martinez (15-5)	#85
Sat, May 30th	vs MIA	Tyler Phillips (5-6)	#136	@ TB	Drew Rasmussen (16-5)	#18
Sun, May 31st	vs MIA	John King		@ TB	Shane McClanahan (10-7)
Mon, Jun 1st	@ SEA	Emerson Hancock (7-8)	#174	vs COL	Kyle Freeland (4-11)	#248
Tue, Jun 2nd	@ SEA	Logan Gilbert (12-11)	#4	vs COL	Tomoyuki Sugano (12-11)	#336
Wed, Jun 3rd	@ SEA	George Kirby (9-11)	#15	vs COL	Michael Lorenzen (3-13)
Fri, Jun 5th	@ SD	Michael King (12-10)	#43	@ LAD	Roki Sasaki (5-5)	#183
Sat, Jun 6th	@ SD	Griffin Canning (4-9)	#203	@ LAD	Yoshinobu Yamamoto (14-9)	#6
Sun, Jun 7th	@ SD	Randy Vasquez (10-6)	#280	@ LAD	Emmet Sheehan (5-8)	#98
Tue, Jun 9th	vs STL	Dustin May (7-9)	#42	vs HOU	Kai-Wei Teng (5-7)	#167
Wed, Jun 10th	vs STL	Andre Pallante (12-8)	#94	vs HOU	Peter Lambert (8-10)	#151
Thu, Jun 11th	vs STL	Hunter Dobbins (3-3)
Fri, Jun 12th	vs ATL	Spencer Strider (4-2)		vs TB	Shane McClanahan (10-7)
Sat, Jun 13th	vs ATL	Martin Perez (9-9)	#119	vs TB	Griffin Jax (8-10)	#40
Sun, Jun 14th	vs ATL	Bryce Elder (8-8)		vs TB	Casey Legumina (2-2)	#264
Mon, Jun 15th	@ CIN	Chase Burns (15-3)		@ ARI	Ryne Nelson (3-5)	#184
Tue, Jun 16th	@ CIN	Brady Singer (6-15)	#201	@ ARI	Merrill Kelly (10-14)	#182
Wed, Jun 17th	@ CIN	Nick Lodolo (3-6)	#153	@ ARI	Eduardo Rodriguez (15-7)	#86
Thu, Jun 18th	@ PHI	Aaron Nola (7-11)	#52	@ ATH	Gage Jump (6-11)
Sat, Jun 20th	@ PHI	Cristopher Sanchez (18-6)	#11	@ ATH	J.T. Ginn (9-8)
Sun, Jun 21st	@ PHI	Zack Wheeler (13-5)	#7	@ ATH	Jack Perkins (3-12)	#126
Tue, Jun 23rd	vs CHC	Edward Cabrera (5-5)	#197	vs BAL	Shane Baz (6-15)	#63
Wed, Jun 24th	vs CHC	Shota Imanaga (11-10)	#31	vs BAL	Trey Gibson (2-3)	#250
Thu, Jun 25th	vs CHC	Matthew Boyd (9-5)	#50
Fri, Jun 26th	vs PHI	Zack Wheeler (13-5)	#7	vs ATH	J.T. Ginn (9-8)
Sat, Jun 27th	vs PHI	Tim Mayza (3-4)	#229	vs ATH	Jack Perkins (3-12)	#126
Sun, Jun 28th	vs PHI	Jesus Luzardo (14-5)		vs ATH	Aaron Civale (6-7)	#152
Mon, Jun 29th	@ TOR	Trey Yesavage (5-5)	#76	@ SEA	George Kirby (9-11)	#15
Tue, Jun 30th	@ TOR	Kevin Gausman (9-12)	#21	@ SEA	Bryan Woo (12-9)	#3
Wed, Jul 1st	@ TOR	Braydon Fisher (3-4)	#195
Fri, Jul 3rd	@ ATL	Grant Holmes (10-5)	#148	vs BOS	Jake Bennett (9-7)	#103
Sat, Jul 4th	@ ATL	Chris Sale (14-9)	#2	vs BOS	Sonny Gray (18-5)	#32
Sun, Jul 5th	@ ATL	Martin Perez (9-9)	#119	vs BOS	Ranger Suarez (8-4)	#44
Mon, Jul 6th	@ ATL	Reynaldo Lopez (4-5)
Tue, Jul 7th	vs KC	Seth Lugo (7-9)	#218	@ TEX	Jacob deGrom (11-10)	#5
Wed, Jul 8th	vs KC	Steven Cruz		@ TEX	MacKenzie Gore (8-11)	#27
Thu, Jul 9th	vs KC	Michael Wacha (9-9)	#97	@ TEX	Nathan Eovaldi (11-10)	#65
Fri, Jul 10th	vs BOS	Sonny Gray (18-5)	#32	@ MIN	Zebby Matthews (9-11)	#140
Sat, Jul 11th	vs BOS	Eduardo Rivera (0-1)		@ MIN	Joe Ryan (6-10)	#36
Sun, Jul 12th	vs BOS	Payton Tolle (9-6)	#30	@ MIN	Taj Bradley (12-6)	#88
Thu, Jul 16th	@ PHI	Aaron Nola (7-11)	#52
Sat, Jul 18th	@ PHI	Jesus Luzardo (14-5)		vs DET	Tarik Skubal (11-7)	#1
Sun, Jul 19th	@ PHI	Alan Rangel (0-3)	#307	vs DET	Casey Mize (6-9)	#38
Mon, Jul 20th	@ MIL	Jacob Misiorowski (15-5)	#12	vs STL	Kyle Leahy (10-5)	#64
Tue, Jul 21st	@ MIL	Brandon Sproat (3-7)	#317	vs STL	Matthew Liberatore (6-14)	#90
Wed, Jul 22nd	@ MIL	Logan Henderson (11-3)	#28	vs STL	Hunter Dobbins (3-3)
Fri, Jul 24th	vs LAD	Roki Sasaki (5-5)	#183	@ SF	Logan Webb (8-9)
Sat, Jul 25th	vs LAD	Yoshinobu Yamamoto (14-9)	#6	@ SF	Robbie Ray (13-8)	#127
Sun, Jul 26th	vs LAD	Emmet Sheehan (5-8)	#98	@ SF	Carson Whisenhunt (3-4)
Mon, Jul 27th	vs ATL	Martin Perez (9-9)	#119	vs HOU	Tatsuya Imai (6-4)	#179
Wed, Jul 29th	vs ATL	Chris Sale (14-9)	#2	vs HOU	Hayden Wesneski (5-2)	#68
Thu, Jul 30th	vs MIA	Eury Perez (7-11)	#55
Fri, Jul 31st	vs MIA	Janson Junk (6-9)	#77	vs MIL	Shane Drohan (7-5)	#70
Sat, Aug 1st	vs MIA	Tyler Phillips (5-6)	#136	vs MIL	Robert Gasser (5-5)	#60
Sun, Aug 2nd	vs MIA	Sandy Alcantara (13-11)	#91	vs MIL	Jacob Misiorowski (15-5)	#12
Tue, Aug 4th	@ CLE	Joey Cantillo (10-9)	#58	@ BAL	Cade Povich (2-1)	#185
Wed, Aug 5th	@ CLE	Tanner Bibee (6-15)	#71	@ BAL	Trevor Rogers (10-11)	#39
Thu, Aug 6th	@ CLE	Foster Griffin (15-6)	#37	@ BAL	Brandon Young (9-5)	#92
Fri, Aug 7th	@ PIT	Carmen Mlodzinski (8-7)	#84	@ MIA	Tyler Phillips (5-6)	#136
Sat, Aug 8th	@ PIT	Bubba Chandler (8-9)	#75	@ MIA	Sandy Alcantara (13-11)	#91
Sun, Aug 9th	@ PIT	Jared Jones (5-6)	#26	@ MIA	Ryan Gusto (1-5)	#106
Mon, Aug 10th	@ ATL	Bryce Elder (8-8)		vs TEX	MacKenzie Gore (8-11)	#27
Tue, Aug 11th	@ ATL	Martin Perez (9-9)	#119	vs TEX	Cody Bradford (0-5)	#118
Wed, Aug 12th	@ ATL	Tyler Mahle (7-10)	#53	vs TEX	Cal Quantrill (9-5)
Fri, Aug 14th	vs WSH	Andrew Alvarez (2-6)	#124	vs KC	Seth Lugo (7-9)	#218
Sat, Aug 15th	vs WSH	Brad Lord (5-2)	#227	vs KC	Randy Dobnak (3-4)	#334
Sun, Aug 16th	vs WSH	Jake Irvin (2-9)	#142	vs KC	Noah Cameron (9-8)	#81
Mon, Aug 17th	vs SD	Walker Buehler (9-6)	#139
Tue, Aug 18th	vs SD	Robbie Ray (13-8)	#127	@ HOU	Cristian Javier (2-6)	#169
Wed, Aug 19th	vs SD	Michael King (12-10)	#43	@ HOU	Ethan Pecko (1-0)	#165
Fri, Aug 21st	@ CWS	Sean Burke (10-7)	#101	@ TEX	MacKenzie Gore (8-11)	#27
Sat, Aug 22nd	@ CWS	Luis Castillo (4-11)	#161	@ TEX	Cody Bradford (0-5)	#118
Sun, Aug 23rd	@ CWS	Sean Newcomb (2-5)	#219	@ TEX	Cal Quantrill (9-5)
Tue, Aug 25th	vs MIL	Kyle Harrison (10-5)	#66	vs CLE	Gavin Williams (14-8)	#17
Wed, Aug 26th	vs MIL	Dustin May (7-9)	#42	vs CLE	Joey Cantillo (10-9)	#58
Thu, Aug 27th	vs MIL	Jacob Misiorowski (15-5)	#12
Fri, Aug 28th	vs HOU	Hunter Brown (6-3)	#20	vs PHI	Andrew Painter (3-10)	#164
Sat, Aug 29th	vs HOU	Bennett Sousa		vs PHI	Cristopher Sanchez (18-6)	#11
Sun, Aug 30th	vs HOU	Ethan Pecko (1-0)	#165	vs PHI	Zack Wheeler (13-5)	#7
Mon, Aug 31st	@ TB	Ian Seymour (9-7)	#57	vs NYY	Elmer Rodriguez (0-3)	#125
Tue, Sep 1st	@ TB	Freddy Peralta (9-11)	#56	vs NYY	Gerrit Cole (10-9)	#25
Wed, Sep 2nd	@ TB	Griffin Jax (8-10)	#40	vs NYY	Cam Schlittler (14-6)	#14
Fri, Sep 4th	vs SF	Matt Wilkinson (1-3)	#231	@ PIT	Jared Jones (5-6)	#26
Sat, Sep 5th	vs SF	Anthony Molina (3-2)	#114	@ PIT	Braxton Ashcraft (14-6)
Sun, Sep 6th	vs SF	Cesar Perdomo (0-1)	#241	@ PIT	Paul Skenes (10-11)	#9
Mon, Sep 7th	@ MIA	Eury Perez (7-11)	#55	@ BOS	Brayan Bello (6-7)	#109
Tue, Sep 8th	@ MIA	Sandy Alcantara (13-11)	#91	@ BOS	Patrick Sandoval (1-7)	#80
Wed, Sep 9th	@ MIA	Janson Junk (6-9)	#77	@ BOS	Jake Bennett (9-7)	#103
Fri, Sep 11th	@ NYY	Carlos Rodon (7-3)	#33	@ WSH	Cade Cavalli (13-5)	#48
Sat, Sep 12th	@ NYY	Gerrit Cole (10-9)	#25	@ WSH	Andrew Alvarez (2-6)	#124
Sun, Sep 13th	@ NYY	Cam Schlittler (14-6)	#14	@ WSH	Riley Cornelio (3-2)	#282
Mon, Sep 14th	vs BAL	Brandon Young (9-5)	#92	vs SEA	Kade Anderson (2-2)	#24
Tue, Sep 15th	vs BAL	Shane Baz (6-15)	#63	vs SEA	Logan Gilbert (12-11)	#4
Wed, Sep 16th	vs BAL	Chris Bassitt (9-5)	#95	vs SEA	George Kirby (9-11)	#15
Thu, Sep 17th	vs PHI	Aaron Nola (7-11)	#52	vs MIN	Taj Bradley (12-6)	#88
Fri, Sep 18th	vs PHI	Tim Mayza (3-4)	#229	vs MIN	Connor Prielipp (6-7)	#59
Sat, Sep 19th	vs PHI	Andrew Painter (3-10)	#164	vs MIN	Joe Ryan (6-10)	#36
Sun, Sep 20th	vs PHI	Cristopher Sanchez (18-6)	#11	vs MIN	Dean Kremer (4-5)	#87
Tue, Sep 22nd	@ TEX	MacKenzie Gore (8-11)	#27	@ ATH	Brady Basso (1-3)	#213
Wed, Sep 23rd	@ TEX	Cody Bradford (0-5)	#118	@ ATH	Jeffrey Springs (4-14)	#324
Thu, Sep 24th	@ TEX	Kumar Rocker (5-11)	#78	@ SEA	Bryan Woo (12-9)	#3
Fri, Sep 25th	@ WSH	Andrew Alvarez (2-6)	#124	@ SEA	Bryce Miller (4-9)	#22
Sat, Sep 26th	@ WSH	Connelly Early (7-5)	#72	@ SEA	Kade Anderson (2-2)	#24
Sun, Sep 27th	@ WSH	Jake Irvin (2-9)	#142	@ SEA	Logan Gilbert (12-11)	#4
Fri, Mar 27th				@ HOU	Mike Burrows (4-9)	#225
Mon, Apr 6th				vs ATL	Chris Sale (14-9)	#2
Thu, Apr 16th				@ NYY	Max Fried (5-5)	#13
Mon, Apr 20th				vs TOR	Dylan Cease (11-6)	#128
Sat, Apr 25th				@ KC	Cole Ragans (1-4)
Mon, Apr 27th				@ CWS	Anthony Kay (9-9)	#83
Tue, May 5th				vs CWS	Erick Fedde (8-9)	#252
Mon, May 11th				@ CLE	Joey Cantillo (10-9)	#58
Thu, May 28th				@ DET	Jack Flaherty (3-8)	#93
Mon, Jun 8th				vs HOU	Spencer Arrighetti (9-9)	#254
Fri, Jun 19th				@ ATH	Jeffrey Springs (4-14)	#324
Mon, Jun 22nd				vs BAL	Kyle Bradish (7-14)
Thu, Jul 2nd				@ SEA	Bryce Miller (4-9)	#22
Fri, Jul 17th				vs DET	Troy Melton (8-5)
Tue, Jul 28th				vs HOU	Peter Lambert (8-10)	#151
Thu, Aug 13th				vs TEX	Jacob deGrom (11-10)	#5
Thu, Aug 20th				@ HOU	Peter Lambert (8-10)	#151
Mon, Aug 24th				vs CLE	Parker Messick (12-9)	#35