Dominic Smith or Josh Naylor

Baseball Stats Comparison

Stats
Projections
News & Notes
Schedule

Dominic Smith or Josh Naylor Player Statistics
	Josh Naylor 1B,DH - SEA	Dominic Smith 1B,DH - ATL
2026 Stats


At Bats	524	260

Runs	51	39

Hits	140	67

Singles	110	52

Doubles	20	6

Triples	0	1

Home Runs	10	8

RBI	49	44

Stolen Bases	26	0

Caught Stealing	7	0

Walks	41	22

Strikeouts	73	45

Batting Average	.267	.258

On Base Pct	.325	.315

Slugging Pct	.363	.381

On-base Plus Slugging	.688	.696

Dominic Smith or Josh Naylor Player Projections
	Josh Naylor 1B,DH - SEA	Dominic Smith 1B,DH - ATL
2026 Projections


At Bats	536	197

Runs	73	23

Hits	144	48

Singles	92	33

Doubles	28	9

Triples	0	0

Home Runs	22	5

RBI	87	24

Stolen Bases	17	1

Caught Stealing	3	0

Walks	49	17

Strikeouts	89	45

Batting Average	.268	.241

On Base Pct	.328	.302

Slugging Pct	.444	.369

On-base Plus Slugging	.772	.671

Dominic Smith or Josh Naylor Player Notes
	Josh Naylor 1B,DH - SEA	Dominic Smith 1B,DH - ATL
News
	Josh Naylor went 3-for-5 with two RBI in the Mariners 7-5 win over the Brewers on Wednesday. Ari Koslow Thu, Aug 20th	Dominic Smith went 1-for-3 with a solo homer, a walk, two RBI, and two runs scored in Saturday's 8-3 win over the Nationals. Nate Miller - FantasyPros Sun, Aug 2nd
	Josh Naylor is back in the Mariners lineup on Wednesday against the Yankees. Ari Koslow Wed, Aug 12th	Dominic Smith went 1-for-3 with a three-run homer in Thursday's 6-5 win against the Padres. Nate Miller - FantasyPros Thu, Jul 23rd
	Mariners first baseman Josh Naylor is out of Tuesday's lineup due to right wrist soreness. Brenton Kemp Tue, Aug 11th	Dominic Smith went 1-for-4 with a three-run double in Thursday's 11-5 loss to the Cardinals. Nate Miller - FantasyPros Fri, Jul 3rd
	Josh Naylor went 3-for-4 with two home runs in the Mariners 3-2 loss against the Rays on Saturday. Ari Koslow Sun, Aug 9th	Dominic Smith went 2-for-3 with a walk and a two-run homer in Saturday's 6-3 win over the Pirates. Nate Miller - FantasyPros Sun, Jun 7th
	Mariners manager Dan Wilson said Josh Naylor was fine after leaving Sunday's game. Ari Koslow Mon, Aug 3rd	Dominic Smith went 2-for-4 with a three-run homer, a triple, and two runs scored in Wednesday's 9-1 win over the Marlins. Nate Miller - FantasyPros Thu, May 21st
Notes
	Let's start with the important part: Josh Naylor will not steal 30 bases again in 2026. With a previous high of 10, the 30 was a gift to managers who drafted him and will most likely be the outlier of his career. Naylor did sacrifice power in his time between Arizona and Seattle, hitting only 20 home runs after smacking 31 the year before. The .295 average helped offset this to some degree, but as a career .269 hitter, this is also suspect to continue. Even though he will only be 29 this season, the return to Seattle limits the upside we can expect. He's more of an avoid, unless he falls in drafts. Kelly Kirby - FantasyPros
	Mysterious spike in stolen bases, plays in the toughest offensive park in the game, and a mediocre batted ball profile - I am passing on Naylor at his ADP. Anthony Gambale - Roto Street Journal

Dominic Smith or Josh Naylor Player Schedules
Date	Opp	Opp Pitcher	VBR	Opp	Opp Pitcher	VBR
	Josh Naylor 1B,DH - SEA			Dominic Smith 1B,DH - ATL
Fri, Mar 27th	vs CLE	Gavin Williams (13-7)	#20	vs KC	Cole Ragans (1-4)
Sat, Mar 28th	vs CLE	Joey Cantillo (9-9)	#72	vs KC	Michael Wacha (9-8)	#78
Sun, Mar 29th	vs CLE	Slade Cecconi (4-7)	#180	vs KC	Seth Lugo (6-8)	#134
Mon, Mar 30th	vs NYY	Ryan Weathers (5-8)	#177	vs ATH	Jacob Lopez (6-4)	#139
Tue, Mar 31st	vs NYY	Max Fried (4-4)	#15	vs ATH	Aaron Civale (6-7)	#174
Wed, Apr 1st	vs NYY	Cam Schlittler (12-6)	#18	vs ATH	Luis Severino (2-6)
Thu, Apr 2nd				@ ARI	Ryne Nelson (3-5)	#193
Fri, Apr 3rd	@ LAA	Reid Detmers (4-8)	#22	@ ARI	Eduardo Rodriguez (15-5)	#120
Sat, Apr 4th	@ LAA	Jack Kochanowicz (2-5)		@ ARI	Michael Soroka (8-4)	#93
Sun, Apr 5th	@ LAA	George Klassen (2-2)	#353	@ ARI	Brandon Pfaadt (7-2)	#96
Mon, Apr 6th	@ TEX	Jacob deGrom (10-9)	#12	@ LAA	Jose Soriano (11-7)	#40
Tue, Apr 7th	@ TEX	Nathan Eovaldi (10-9)	#162	@ LAA	Yusei Kikuchi (1-5)	#81
Wed, Apr 8th	@ TEX	MacKenzie Gore (8-10)	#48	@ LAA	Reid Detmers (4-8)	#22
Fri, Apr 10th	vs HOU	Tatsuya Imai (6-4)	#118	vs CLE	Slade Cecconi (4-7)	#180
Sat, Apr 11th	vs HOU	Lance McCullers Jr. (2-3)		vs CLE	Parker Messick (11-9)	#32
Sun, Apr 12th	vs HOU	Cody Bolton (0-1)	#325	vs CLE	Tanner Bibee (5-15)	#64
Mon, Apr 13th	vs HOU	Mike Burrows (4-9)	#287	vs MIA	Eury Perez (7-11)	#45
Tue, Apr 14th	@ SD	Michael King (10-9)	#58	vs MIA	Max Meyer (9-1)
Wed, Apr 15th	@ SD	Randy Vasquez (10-6)	#205	vs MIA	Chris Paddack (0-7)
Fri, Apr 17th	vs TEX	Jacob deGrom (10-9)	#12	@ PHI	Taijuan Walker (1-4)
Sat, Apr 18th	vs TEX	Nathan Eovaldi (10-9)	#162	@ PHI	Cristopher Sanchez (16-5)	#4
Sun, Apr 19th	vs TEX	MacKenzie Gore (8-10)	#48	@ PHI	Andrew Painter (3-8)	#128
Mon, Apr 20th	vs ATH	J.T. Ginn (9-8)	#254	@ WSH	Jake Irvin (2-9)	#156
Tue, Apr 21st	vs ATH	Jacob Lopez (6-4)	#139	@ WSH	Foster Griffin (15-4)	#56
Wed, Apr 22nd	vs ATH	Aaron Civale (6-7)	#174	@ WSH	Zack Littell (8-8)	#317
Thu, Apr 23rd				@ WSH	Cade Cavalli (12-5)	#37
Fri, Apr 24th	@ STL	Andre Pallante (12-6)	#122	vs PHI	Andrew Painter (3-8)	#128
Sat, Apr 25th	@ STL	Matthew Liberatore (5-14)	#79	vs PHI	Zack Wheeler (12-5)	#7
Sun, Apr 26th	@ STL	Michael McGreevy (6-9)	#107	vs PHI	Aaron Nola (6-10)	#62
Tue, Apr 28th	@ MIN	Joe Ryan (6-9)	#29	vs DET	Casey Mize (5-9)	#52
Wed, Apr 29th	@ MIN	Taj Bradley (11-6)	#41	vs DET	Tarik Skubal (8-7)	#2
Thu, Apr 30th				vs DET	Framber Valdez (9-10)	#44
Fri, May 1st	vs KC	Cole Ragans (1-4)		@ COL	Jose Quintana (2-3)	#407
Sat, May 2nd	vs KC	Seth Lugo (6-8)	#134	@ COL	Brennan Bernardino (4-3)	#395
Sun, May 3rd	vs KC	Kris Bubic (3-2)	#163	@ COL	Kyle Freeland (4-10)	#381
Mon, May 4th	vs ATL	JR Ritchie (1-2)	#278	@ SEA	Logan Gilbert (11-9)	#16
Tue, May 5th	vs ATL	Bryce Elder (8-8)	#144	@ SEA	George Kirby (9-11)	#24
Wed, May 6th	vs ATL	Martin Perez (8-9)	#181	@ SEA	Bryan Woo (11-9)	#14
Fri, May 8th	@ CWS	Sean Burke (8-6)	#65	@ LAD	Emmet Sheehan (5-8)	#55
Sat, May 9th	@ CWS	Anthony Kay (9-8)	#147	@ LAD	Blake Snell (3-1)	#10
Sun, May 10th	@ CWS	Davis Martin (9-6)	#99	@ LAD	Justin Wrobleski (11-5)	#103
Tue, May 12th	@ HOU	Tatsuya Imai (6-4)	#118	vs CHC	Colin Rea (8-8)	#211
Wed, May 13th	@ HOU	Lance McCullers Jr. (2-3)		vs CHC	Shota Imanaga (9-10)	#33
Thu, May 14th	@ HOU	Mike Burrows (4-9)	#287	vs CHC	Ben Brown (4-2)
Fri, May 15th	vs SD	Randy Vasquez (10-6)	#205	vs BOS	Connelly Early (7-5)	#183
Sat, May 16th	vs SD	Walker Buehler (8-6)	#192	vs BOS	Payton Tolle (9-6)	#31
Sun, May 17th	vs SD	Lucas Giolito (2-3)		vs BOS	Brayan Bello (6-7)	#127
Mon, May 18th	vs CWS	Noah Schultz (3-9)	#309	@ MIA	Max Meyer (9-1)
Tue, May 19th	vs CWS	Anthony Kay (9-8)	#147	@ MIA	Braxton Garrett (0-1)	#224
Wed, May 20th	vs CWS	Sean Burke (8-6)	#65	@ MIA	Janson Junk (6-9)	#100
Thu, May 21st				@ MIA	Sandy Alcantara (13-9)	#71
Fri, May 22nd	@ KC	Noah Cameron (9-8)	#91	vs WSH	Richard Lovelady (2-4)	#264
Sat, May 23rd	@ KC	Stephen Kolek (4-3)		vs WSH	Jake Irvin (2-9)	#156
Sun, May 24th	@ KC	Seth Lugo (6-8)	#134	vs WSH	Foster Griffin (15-4)	#56
Tue, May 26th	@ ATH	Gage Jump (6-10)	#114	@ BOS	Ranger Suarez (6-4)	#36
Wed, May 27th	@ ATH	Jeffrey Springs (4-13)	#245	@ BOS	Connelly Early (7-5)	#183
Thu, May 28th				@ BOS	Payton Tolle (9-6)	#31
Fri, May 29th	vs ARI	Zac Gallen (3-9)	#138	@ CIN	Chris Paddack (0-7)
Sat, May 30th	vs ARI	Ryne Nelson (3-5)	#193	@ CIN	Brady Singer (6-13)	#157
Sun, May 31st	vs ARI	Merrill Kelly (9-13)	#158	@ CIN	Nick Lodolo (3-3)	#110
Tue, Jun 2nd	vs NYM	Huascar Brazoban (5-2)	#282	vs TOR	Kevin Gausman (9-11)	#23
Wed, Jun 3rd	vs NYM	Freddy Peralta (7-11)	#51	vs TOR	Patrick Corbin (3-4)
Thu, Jun 4th				vs TOR	Mason Fluharty (6-1)	#165
Fri, Jun 5th	@ DET	Framber Valdez (9-10)	#44	vs PIT	Mitch Keller (6-8)
Sat, Jun 6th	@ DET	Keider Montero (9-8)	#116	vs PIT	Braxton Ashcraft (14-6)	#27
Sun, Jun 7th	@ DET	Jack Flaherty (3-8)	#97	vs PIT	Mason Montgomery (6-3)	#60
Tue, Jun 9th	@ BAL	Trevor Rogers (10-9)	#53	@ CWS	Brandon Eisert (2-2)	#261
Wed, Jun 10th	@ BAL	Brandon Young (9-3)	#123	@ CWS	Davis Martin (9-6)	#99
Fri, Jun 12th	@ WSH	Zack Littell (8-8)	#317	@ NYM	Nolan McLean (11-8)	#35
Sat, Jun 13th	@ WSH	Cade Cavalli (12-5)	#37	@ NYM	Sean Manaea (4-7)	#69
Sun, Jun 14th	@ WSH	PJ Poulin (3-0)		@ NYM	Freddy Peralta (7-11)	#51
Wed, Jun 17th	vs BAL	Kyle Bradish (7-13)	#54	vs SF	Carson Whisenhunt (3-4)
Fri, Jun 19th	vs BOS	Ranger Suarez (6-4)	#36	vs MIL	Jacob Misiorowski (14-5)	#13
Sat, Jun 20th	vs BOS	Connelly Early (7-5)	#183	vs MIL	Kyle Harrison (10-4)	#63
Sun, Jun 21st	vs BOS	Payton Tolle (9-6)	#31	vs MIL	Robert Gasser (4-5)	#85
Mon, Jun 22nd				@ SD	Michael King (10-9)	#58
Tue, Jun 23rd	@ PIT	Mitch Keller (6-8)		@ SD	Wandy Peralta (2-2)	#303
Wed, Jun 24th	@ PIT	Braxton Ashcraft (14-6)	#27	@ SD	JP Sears (3-4)	#285
Fri, Jun 26th	@ CLE	Joey Cantillo (9-9)	#72	@ SF	Trevor McDonald (3-7)
Sat, Jun 27th	@ CLE	Slade Cecconi (4-7)	#180	@ SF	Logan Webb (8-8)	#21
Sun, Jun 28th	@ CLE	Gavin Williams (13-7)	#20	@ SF	Robbie Ray (11-8)	#106
Tue, Jun 30th	vs LAA	Jose Soriano (11-7)	#40	vs STL	Matthew Liberatore (5-14)	#79
Wed, Jul 1st				vs STL	Michael McGreevy (6-9)	#107
Thu, Jul 2nd	vs LAA	Walbert Urena (9-10)	#168	vs STL	Dustin May (6-9)	#57
Fri, Jul 3rd	vs TOR	Dylan Cease (10-5)	#6	vs NYM	Christian Scott (4-4)	#39
Sat, Jul 4th	vs TOR	Shane Bieber (5-2)	#198	vs NYM	Sean Manaea (4-7)	#69
Sun, Jul 5th	vs TOR	Trey Yesavage (5-5)	#214	vs NYM	Nolan McLean (11-8)	#35
Mon, Jul 6th				vs NYM	Freddy Peralta (7-11)	#51
Tue, Jul 7th	@ MIA	Max Meyer (9-1)		@ PIT	Paul Skenes (10-11)	#11
Wed, Jul 8th	@ MIA	Tyler Phillips (5-6)	#184	@ PIT	Jared Jones (3-6)	#46
Thu, Jul 9th	@ MIA	Janson Junk (6-9)	#100	@ PIT	Mitch Keller (6-8)
Fri, Jul 10th	@ TB	Nick Martinez (14-4)	#84	@ STL	Kyle Leahy (10-4)	#90
Sat, Jul 11th	@ TB	Griffin Jax (6-10)	#30	@ STL	Matthew Liberatore (5-14)	#79
Sun, Jul 12th	@ TB	Ian Seymour (9-6)	#43	@ STL	Dustin May (6-9)	#57
Fri, Jul 17th	vs SF	Landen Roupp (8-13)	#87	vs TEX	Cal Quantrill (7-5)	#154
Sat, Jul 18th	vs SF	Logan Webb (8-8)	#21	vs TEX	MacKenzie Gore (8-10)	#48
Sun, Jul 19th	vs SF	Robbie Ray (11-8)	#106	vs TEX	Nathan Eovaldi (10-9)	#162
Mon, Jul 20th	vs CIN	Andrew Abbott (6-10)	#130	vs SD	JP Sears (3-4)	#285
Tue, Jul 21st	vs CIN	Chase Burns (15-3)	#34	vs SD	Walker Buehler (8-6)	#192
Wed, Jul 22nd	vs CIN	Brady Singer (6-13)	#157	vs SD	Michael King (10-9)	#58
Thu, Jul 23rd				vs SD	Kyle Hart (0-3)	#179
Fri, Jul 24th	@ TEX	MacKenzie Gore (8-10)	#48	@ BAL	Trevor Rogers (10-9)	#53
Sat, Jul 25th	@ TEX	Nathan Eovaldi (10-9)	#162	@ BAL	Brandon Young (9-3)	#123
Sun, Jul 26th	@ TEX	Jacob deGrom (10-9)	#12	@ BAL	Shane Baz (5-15)	#75
Mon, Jul 27th	@ TEX	Kumar Rocker (5-11)	#119	@ NYM	Zac Thornton (3-5)	#125
Wed, Jul 29th	@ LAD	Eric Lauer (8-7)	#334	@ NYM	Christian Scott (4-4)	#39
Thu, Jul 30th	@ LAD	Roki Sasaki (5-5)	#178	vs WSH	Jake Irvin (2-9)	#156
Fri, Jul 31st	vs MIN	Zebby Matthews (9-9)	#92	vs WSH	Foster Griffin (15-4)	#56
Sat, Aug 1st	vs MIN	Connor Prielipp (4-7)	#73	vs WSH	Miles Mikolas (3-9)
Sun, Aug 2nd	vs MIN	Taj Bradley (11-6)	#41	vs WSH	Cade Cavalli (12-5)	#37
Tue, Aug 4th	vs DET	Troy Melton (8-4)	#61	vs MIA	Ryan Gusto (1-4)	#121
Wed, Aug 5th	vs DET	Drew Anderson (4-5)	#66	vs MIA	Eury Perez (7-11)	#45
Thu, Aug 6th	vs DET	Framber Valdez (9-10)	#44	vs MIA	Janson Junk (6-9)	#100
Fri, Aug 7th	vs TB	Drew Rasmussen (14-5)	#19	@ NYY	Max Fried (4-4)	#15
Sat, Aug 8th	vs TB	Casey Legumina (2-2)	#209	@ NYY	Gerrit Cole (8-8)	#17
Sun, Aug 9th	vs TB	Ian Seymour (9-6)	#43	@ NYY	Cam Schlittler (12-6)	#18
Mon, Aug 10th				vs NYM	Christian Scott (4-4)	#39
Tue, Aug 11th	@ NYY	Ryan Weathers (5-8)	#177	vs NYM	Nolan McLean (11-8)	#35
Wed, Aug 12th	@ NYY	Will Warren (9-6)	#80	vs NYM	Zac Thornton (3-5)	#125
Fri, Aug 14th	@ HOU	Peter Lambert (8-8)	#137	vs ARI	Brandon Pfaadt (7-2)	#96
Sat, Aug 15th	@ HOU	Hayden Wesneski (4-1)	#86	vs ARI	Eduardo Rodriguez (15-5)	#120
Sun, Aug 16th	@ HOU	Hunter Brown (5-3)	#28	vs ARI	Michael Soroka (8-4)	#93
Mon, Aug 17th				@ MIN	Bailey Ober (7-5)	#88
Tue, Aug 18th	@ MIL	Kyle Harrison (10-4)	#63	@ MIN	Zebby Matthews (9-9)	#92
Wed, Aug 19th	@ MIL	Dustin May (6-9)	#57	@ MIN	Taj Bradley (11-6)	#41
Thu, Aug 20th	@ MIL	Robert Gasser (4-5)	#85	@ CWS	Anthony Kay (9-8)	#147
Fri, Aug 21st	vs CHC	Matthew Boyd (8-4)	#59	@ MIL	Jacob Misiorowski (14-5)	#13
Sat, Aug 22nd	vs CHC	David Peterson (7-8)	#109	@ MIL	Logan Henderson (9-3)	#25
Sun, Aug 23rd	vs CHC	Shota Imanaga (9-10)	#33	@ MIL	Shane Drohan (7-5)	#95
Tue, Aug 25th	vs PHI	Aaron Nola (6-10)	#62	vs LAD	Tyler Glasnow (4-0)	#9
Wed, Aug 26th	vs PHI	Jesus Luzardo (14-5)	#8	vs LAD	Roki Sasaki (5-5)	#178
Thu, Aug 27th				vs LAD	Yoshinobu Yamamoto (12-8)	#5
Fri, Aug 28th	@ TOR	Dylan Cease (10-5)	#6	vs COL	Tomoyuki Sugano (12-8)	#411
Sat, Aug 29th	@ TOR	Jose Soriano (11-7)	#40	vs COL	Zach Agnos (0-2)	#402
Sun, Aug 30th	@ TOR	Max Scherzer (2-7)	#111	vs COL	Mason Adams (0-0)	#403
Mon, Aug 31st	@ BOS	Payton Tolle (9-6)	#31	vs SF	Anthony Molina
Tue, Sep 1st	@ BOS	Jedixson Paez (0-1)	#316	@ WSH	Jake Irvin (2-9)	#156
Wed, Sep 2nd	@ BOS	Patrick Sandoval (1-4)	#101	@ WSH	Brad Lord (5-2)	#204
Fri, Sep 4th	vs ATH	Kade Morris (0-1)	#393	@ PHI	Cristopher Sanchez (16-5)	#4
Sat, Sep 5th	vs ATH	Jeffrey Springs (4-13)	#245	@ PHI	Zack Wheeler (12-5)	#7
Sun, Sep 6th	vs ATH	Gage Jump (6-10)	#114	@ PHI	Aaron Nola (6-10)	#62
Mon, Sep 7th				@ PHI	Jesus Luzardo (14-5)	#8
Tue, Sep 8th	vs TEX	Cody Bradford (0-4)	#94	vs TB	Freddy Peralta (7-11)	#51
Wed, Sep 9th	vs TEX	Cal Quantrill (7-5)	#154	vs TB	Griffin Jax (6-10)	#30
Thu, Sep 10th	vs TEX	Kumar Rocker (5-11)	#119	vs TB
Fri, Sep 11th	@ ATH	Jeffrey Springs (4-13)	#245	vs PHI	Aaron Nola (6-10)	#62
Sat, Sep 12th	@ ATH	Gage Jump (6-10)	#114	vs PHI	Jesus Luzardo (14-5)	#8
Sun, Sep 13th	@ ATH	Jacob Lopez (6-4)	#139	vs PHI	Andrew Painter (3-8)	#128
Mon, Sep 14th	@ LAA	Reid Detmers (4-8)	#22	@ CHC	David Peterson (7-8)	#109
Tue, Sep 15th	@ LAA			@ CHC	Kevin Gausman (9-11)	#23
Wed, Sep 16th	@ LAA	Yusei Kikuchi (1-5)	#81	@ CHC	Shota Imanaga (9-10)	#33
Fri, Sep 18th	@ COL			@ HOU
Sat, Sep 19th	@ COL			@ HOU
Sun, Sep 20th	@ COL			@ HOU
Tue, Sep 22nd	vs HOU			vs CIN
Wed, Sep 23rd	vs HOU			vs CIN
Thu, Sep 24th	vs LAA			vs CIN
Fri, Sep 25th	vs LAA			@ MIA
Sat, Sep 26th	vs LAA			@ MIA
Sun, Sep 27th	vs LAA			@ MIA
Thu, Mar 26th	vs CLE	Tanner Bibee (5-15)	#64
Thu, Apr 16th	@ SD	Walker Buehler (8-6)	#192
Mon, Apr 27th	@ MIN	Connor Prielipp (4-7)	#73
Mon, May 11th	@ HOU	Peter Lambert (8-8)	#137
Mon, May 25th	@ ATH	Aaron Civale (6-7)	#174
Mon, Jun 1st	vs NYM	Austin Warren
Mon, Jun 8th	@ BAL	Trey Gibson (1-3)	#336
Thu, Jun 11th	@ BAL	Kyle Bradish (7-13)	#54
Tue, Jun 16th	vs BAL	Brandon Young (9-3)	#123
Thu, Jun 18th	vs BAL	Shane Baz (5-15)	#75
Thu, Jun 25th	@ PIT	Bubba Chandler (6-9)	#117
Mon, Jun 29th	vs LAA	Ryan Johnson (3-8)	#169
Tue, Jul 28th	@ LAD	Justin Wrobleski (11-5)	#103
Thu, Aug 13th	@ NYY	Max Fried (4-4)	#15
Mon, Aug 24th	vs PHI	Zack Wheeler (12-5)	#7
Thu, Sep 3rd	vs ATH	Jack Perkins (3-10)	#129