Curtis Mead or Josh Naylor

Baseball Stats Comparison

Stats
Projections
News & Notes
Schedule

Curtis Mead or Josh Naylor Player Statistics
	Josh Naylor 1B,DH - SEA	Curtis Mead 1B,2B,3B,DH - BOS
2026 Stats


At Bats	549	285

Runs	57	49

Hits	149	72

Singles	118	37

Doubles	21	17

Triples	0	1

Home Runs	10	17

RBI	50	48

Stolen Bases	27	6

Caught Stealing	7	2

Walks	42	39

Strikeouts	76	63

Batting Average	.271	.253

On Base Pct	.328	.353

Slugging Pct	.364	.498

On-base Plus Slugging	.692	.851

Curtis Mead or Josh Naylor Player Projections
	Josh Naylor 1B,DH - SEA	Curtis Mead 1B,2B,3B,DH - BOS
2026 Projections


At Bats	536	120

Runs	73	15

Hits	144	29

Singles	92	21

Doubles	28	6

Triples	0	0

Home Runs	22	3

RBI	87	13

Stolen Bases	17	2

Caught Stealing	3	0

Walks	49	9

Strikeouts	89	29

Batting Average	.268	.244

On Base Pct	.328	.299

Slugging Pct	.444	.370

On-base Plus Slugging	.772	.669

Curtis Mead or Josh Naylor Player Notes
	Josh Naylor 1B,DH - SEA	Curtis Mead 1B,2B,3B,DH - BOS
News
	Josh Naylor went 3-for-5 with two RBI in the Mariners 7-5 win over the Brewers on Wednesday. Ari Koslow Thu, Aug 20th	Curtis Mead hasn’t been cleared to resume swinging a bat. Ari Koslow Sat, Sep 12th
	Josh Naylor is back in the Mariners lineup on Wednesday against the Yankees. Ari Koslow Wed, Aug 12th	Curtis Mead played catch before Monday’s game. Ari Koslow Mon, Aug 31st
	Mariners first baseman Josh Naylor is out of Tuesday's lineup due to right wrist soreness. Brenton Kemp Tue, Aug 11th	Curtis Mead played catch on Friday. Ari Koslow Fri, Aug 21st
	Josh Naylor went 3-for-4 with two home runs in the Mariners 3-2 loss against the Rays on Saturday. Ari Koslow Sun, Aug 9th	Curtis Mead is scheduled to go for follow-up imaging in late August. Ari Koslow Fri, Jul 31st
	Mariners manager Dan Wilson said Josh Naylor was fine after leaving Sunday's game. Ari Koslow Mon, Aug 3rd	Curtis Mead has been given a tentative timetable to return of 6-8 weeks. Ari Koslow Wed, Jul 29th
Notes
	Let's start with the important part: Josh Naylor will not steal 30 bases again in 2026. With a previous high of 10, the 30 was a gift to managers who drafted him and will most likely be the outlier of his career. Naylor did sacrifice power in his time between Arizona and Seattle, hitting only 20 home runs after smacking 31 the year before. The .295 average helped offset this to some degree, but as a career .269 hitter, this is also suspect to continue. Even though he will only be 29 this season, the return to Seattle limits the upside we can expect. He's more of an avoid, unless he falls in drafts. Kelly Kirby - FantasyPros
	Mysterious spike in stolen bases, plays in the toughest offensive park in the game, and a mediocre batted ball profile - I am passing on Naylor at his ADP. Anthony Gambale - Roto Street Journal

Curtis Mead or Josh Naylor Player Schedules
Date	Opp	Opp Pitcher	VBR	Opp	Opp Pitcher	VBR
	Josh Naylor 1B,DH - SEA			Curtis Mead 1B,2B,3B,DH - BOS
Thu, Mar 26th	vs CLE	Tanner Bibee (6-15)	#75	@ CIN	Andrew Abbott (6-11)	#128
Sat, Mar 28th	vs CLE	Joey Cantillo (9-9)	#66	@ CIN	Brady Singer (6-14)	#155
Sun, Mar 29th	vs CLE	Slade Cecconi (4-7)	#206	@ CIN	Rhett Lowder (6-10)	#227
Mon, Mar 30th	vs NYY	Ryan Weathers (5-8)	#187	@ HOU	Lance McCullers Jr. (2-3)
Tue, Mar 31st	vs NYY	Max Fried (4-4)	#17	@ HOU	Hunter Brown (5-3)	#25
Wed, Apr 1st	vs NYY	Cam Schlittler (14-6)	#15	@ HOU	Mike Burrows (4-9)	#229
Fri, Apr 3rd	@ LAA	Reid Detmers (5-8)	#22	vs SD	Michael King (11-9)	#60
Sat, Apr 4th	@ LAA	Jack Kochanowicz (2-5)		vs SD	Randy Vasquez (10-6)	#163
Sun, Apr 5th	@ LAA	George Klassen (2-2)	#373	vs SD	Walker Buehler (8-6)	#167
Mon, Apr 6th	@ TEX	Jacob deGrom (10-9)	#3	vs MIL	Brandon Woodruff (2-2)
Tue, Apr 7th	@ TEX	Nathan Eovaldi (10-9)	#129	vs MIL	Jacob Misiorowski (14-5)	#7
Wed, Apr 8th	@ TEX	MacKenzie Gore (8-11)	#53	vs MIL	Shane Drohan (7-5)	#79
Fri, Apr 10th	vs HOU	Tatsuya Imai (6-4)	#94	@ STL	Dustin May (7-9)	#51
Sat, Apr 11th	vs HOU	Lance McCullers Jr. (2-3)		@ STL	Kyle Leahy (10-4)	#71
Sun, Apr 12th	vs HOU	Cody Bolton (0-1)	#361	@ STL	Andre Pallante (12-6)	#92
Mon, Apr 13th	vs HOU	Mike Burrows (4-9)	#229	@ MIN	Bailey Ober (7-5)	#87
Tue, Apr 14th	@ SD	Michael King (11-9)	#60	@ MIN	Mick Abel (1-2)
Wed, Apr 15th	@ SD	Randy Vasquez (10-6)	#163	@ MIN	Simeon Woods Richardson (2-7)
Fri, Apr 17th	vs TEX	Jacob deGrom (10-9)	#3	vs DET	Casey Mize (5-9)	#54
Sat, Apr 18th	vs TEX	Nathan Eovaldi (10-9)	#129	vs DET	Tarik Skubal (9-7)	#1
Sun, Apr 19th	vs TEX	MacKenzie Gore (8-11)	#53	vs DET	Framber Valdez (10-10)	#46
Mon, Apr 20th	vs ATH	J.T. Ginn (9-8)		vs DET	Jack Flaherty (3-8)	#91
Tue, Apr 21st	vs ATH	Jacob Lopez (6-4)	#146	vs NYY	Luis Gil (1-2)	#212
Wed, Apr 22nd	vs ATH	Aaron Civale (6-7)	#205	vs NYY	Max Fried (4-4)	#17
Thu, Apr 23rd				vs NYY	Cam Schlittler (14-6)	#15
Fri, Apr 24th	@ STL	Andre Pallante (12-6)	#92	@ BAL	Brandon Young (9-4)	#120
Sat, Apr 25th	@ STL	Matthew Liberatore (5-14)	#83	@ BAL	Trevor Rogers (10-10)	#42
Sun, Apr 26th	@ STL	Michael McGreevy (7-9)	#110	@ BAL	Kyle Bradish (7-14)	#61
Mon, Apr 27th	@ MIN	Connor Prielipp (5-7)	#77	@ TOR	Dylan Cease (11-5)	#4
Tue, Apr 28th	@ MIN	Joe Ryan (6-10)	#27	@ TOR	Trey Yesavage (5-5)	#243
Wed, Apr 29th	@ MIN	Taj Bradley (11-6)	#40	@ TOR	Eric Lauer (8-7)	#314
Fri, May 1st	vs KC	Cole Ragans (1-4)		vs HOU	Mike Burrows (4-9)	#229
Sat, May 2nd	vs KC	Seth Lugo (7-8)	#139	vs HOU	Spencer Arrighetti (8-9)	#140
Sun, May 3rd	vs KC	Kris Bubic (3-2)	#175	vs HOU	Cody Bolton (0-1)	#361
Mon, May 4th	vs ATL	JR Ritchie (1-2)	#310	@ DET	Tyler Holton (2-5)	#130
Tue, May 5th	vs ATL	Bryce Elder (8-8)		@ DET	Framber Valdez (10-10)	#46
Wed, May 6th	vs ATL	Martin Perez (8-9)	#154	@ DET	Jack Flaherty (3-8)	#91
Thu, May 7th				vs TB	Griffin Jax (7-10)	#29
Fri, May 8th	@ CWS	Sean Burke (8-7)	#82	vs TB	Jesse Scholtens (5-3)	#262
Sun, May 10th	@ CWS	Davis Martin (9-7)	#96	vs TB	Nick Martinez (14-4)	#90
Tue, May 12th	@ HOU	Tatsuya Imai (6-4)	#94	vs PHI	Zack Wheeler (12-5)	#9
Wed, May 13th	@ HOU	Lance McCullers Jr. (2-3)		vs PHI	Andrew Painter (3-9)	#132
Thu, May 14th	@ HOU	Mike Burrows (4-9)	#229	vs PHI	Jesus Luzardo (14-5)	#18
Fri, May 15th	vs SD	Randy Vasquez (10-6)	#163	@ ATL	Spencer Strider (4-2)
Sat, May 16th	vs SD	Walker Buehler (8-6)	#167	@ ATL	Bryce Elder (8-8)
Sun, May 17th	vs SD	Lucas Giolito (2-3)		@ ATL	Grant Holmes (9-5)	#157
Mon, May 18th	vs CWS	Noah Schultz (3-9)	#376	@ KC	Seth Lugo (7-8)	#139
Tue, May 19th	vs CWS	Anthony Kay (9-9)	#125	@ KC	Bailey Falter (0-2)	#252
Wed, May 20th	vs CWS	Sean Burke (8-7)	#82	@ KC	Michael Wacha (9-8)	#70
Fri, May 22nd	@ KC	Noah Cameron (9-8)	#65	vs MIN	Connor Prielipp (5-7)	#77
Sat, May 23rd	@ KC	Stephen Kolek (4-3)		vs MIN	Taj Bradley (11-6)	#40
Sun, May 24th	@ KC	Seth Lugo (7-8)	#139	vs MIN	Bailey Ober (7-5)	#87
Tue, May 26th	@ ATH	Gage Jump (6-11)	#102	vs ATL	Spencer Strider (4-2)
Wed, May 27th	@ ATH	Jeffrey Springs (4-13)	#203	vs ATL	Bryce Elder (8-8)
Thu, May 28th				vs ATL	Chris Sale (14-9)	#2
Fri, May 29th	vs ARI	Zac Gallen (3-9)	#118	@ CLE	Slade Cecconi (4-7)	#206
Sat, May 30th	vs ARI	Ryne Nelson (3-5)	#185	@ CLE	Parker Messick (11-9)	#35
Sun, May 31st	vs ARI	Merrill Kelly (9-13)	#131	@ CLE	Tanner Bibee (6-15)	#75
Tue, Jun 2nd	vs NYM	Huascar Brazoban (5-2)	#191	vs BAL	Shane Baz (6-15)	#69
Wed, Jun 3rd	vs NYM	Freddy Peralta (9-11)	#52	vs BAL	Chris Bassitt (7-5)	#143
Thu, Jun 4th				vs BAL	Trevor Rogers (10-10)	#42
Fri, Jun 5th	@ DET	Framber Valdez (10-10)	#46	@ NYY	Ryan Weathers (5-8)	#187
Sun, Jun 7th	@ DET	Jack Flaherty (3-8)	#91	@ NYY	Cam Schlittler (14-6)	#15
Mon, Jun 8th	@ BAL	Trey Gibson (1-3)	#365	@ TB	Ian Seymour (9-6)	#43
Tue, Jun 9th	@ BAL	Trevor Rogers (10-10)	#42	@ TB	Nick Martinez (14-4)	#90
Wed, Jun 10th	@ BAL	Brandon Young (9-4)	#120	@ TB	Drew Rasmussen (14-5)	#14
Fri, Jun 12th	@ WSH	Zack Littell (8-8)	#324	vs TEX	Jack Leiter (3-7)	#230
Sat, Jun 13th	@ WSH	Cade Cavalli (12-5)	#36	vs TEX	Jacob deGrom (10-9)	#3
Sun, Jun 14th	@ WSH	PJ Poulin (3-0)		vs TEX	Nathan Eovaldi (10-9)	#129
Tue, Jun 16th	vs BAL	Brandon Young (9-4)	#120	vs TOR	Dylan Cease (11-5)	#4
Wed, Jun 17th	vs BAL	Kyle Bradish (7-14)	#61	vs TOR	Braydon Fisher (3-4)	#190
Thu, Jun 18th	vs BAL	Shane Baz (6-15)	#69	vs TOR	Trey Yesavage (5-5)	#243
Fri, Jun 19th	vs BOS	Ranger Suarez (7-4)	#34	@ SEA	Bryce Miller (4-9)	#44
Sat, Jun 20th	vs BOS	Connelly Early (7-5)	#179	@ SEA	Emerson Hancock (7-8)	#199
Sun, Jun 21st	vs BOS	Payton Tolle (9-6)	#21	@ SEA	Logan Gilbert (12-9)	#13
Mon, Jun 22nd				@ COL	Ryan Feltner (5-10)	#400
Tue, Jun 23rd	@ PIT	Mitch Keller (6-8)		@ COL	Sean Sullivan (0-3)	#323
Wed, Jun 24th	@ PIT	Braxton Ashcraft (14-6)		@ COL	Kyle Freeland (4-10)	#392
Thu, Jun 25th	@ PIT	Bubba Chandler (8-9)	#109	vs NYY	Cam Schlittler (14-6)	#15
Fri, Jun 26th	@ CLE	Joey Cantillo (9-9)	#66	vs NYY	Will Warren (10-6)	#74
Sat, Jun 27th	@ CLE	Slade Cecconi (4-7)	#206	vs NYY	Gerrit Cole (8-9)	#24
Sun, Jun 28th	@ CLE	Gavin Williams (13-7)	#19	vs NYY	Carlos Rodon (6-3)	#49
Mon, Jun 29th	vs LAA	Ryan Johnson (4-8)	#177	vs WSH	Miles Mikolas (3-9)
Tue, Jun 30th	vs LAA	Jose Soriano (12-7)	#41	vs WSH	Cade Cavalli (12-5)	#36
Wed, Jul 1st				vs WSH	Brad Lord (5-2)	#210
Fri, Jul 3rd	vs TOR	Dylan Cease (11-5)	#4	@ LAA	Reid Detmers (5-8)	#22
Sat, Jul 4th	vs TOR	Shane Bieber (5-2)	#196	@ LAA	Sam Aldegheri (3-4)	#387
Sun, Jul 5th	vs TOR	Trey Yesavage (5-5)	#243	@ LAA	Ryan Johnson (4-8)	#177
Tue, Jul 7th	@ MIA	Max Meyer (9-1)		@ CWS	Noah Schultz (3-9)	#376
Wed, Jul 8th	@ MIA	Tyler Phillips (5-6)	#159	@ CWS	Davis Martin (9-7)	#96
Thu, Jul 9th	@ MIA	Janson Junk (6-9)	#99	@ CWS	Anthony Kay (9-9)	#125
Fri, Jul 10th	@ TB	Nick Martinez (14-4)	#90	@ NYM	Nolan McLean (11-9)	#33
Sat, Jul 11th	@ TB	Griffin Jax (7-10)	#29	@ NYM	Freddy Peralta (9-11)	#52
Sun, Jul 12th	@ TB	Ian Seymour (9-6)	#43	@ NYM	Zac Thornton (4-5)	#123
Fri, Jul 17th	vs SF	Landen Roupp (9-13)	#100	vs TB	Mason Englert (0-3)	#272
Sat, Jul 18th	vs SF	Logan Webb (8-9)	#20	vs TB	Ian Seymour (9-6)	#43
Sun, Jul 19th	vs SF	Robbie Ray (12-8)	#105	vs TB	Shane McClanahan (10-7)	#152
Mon, Jul 20th	vs CIN	Andrew Abbott (6-11)	#128	vs BAL	Shane Baz (6-15)	#69
Wed, Jul 22nd	vs CIN	Brady Singer (6-14)	#155	vs BAL	Kyle Bradish (7-14)	#61
Fri, Jul 24th	@ TEX	MacKenzie Gore (8-11)	#53	vs TOR	Trey Yesavage (5-5)	#243
Sat, Jul 25th	@ TEX	Nathan Eovaldi (10-9)	#129	vs TOR	Dylan Cease (11-5)	#4
Sun, Jul 26th	@ TEX	Jacob deGrom (10-9)	#3	vs TOR	Kevin Gausman (9-12)	#26
Mon, Jul 27th	@ TEX	Kumar Rocker (5-11)	#117	@ ATH	Jack Perkins (3-11)	#135
Tue, Jul 28th	@ LAD	Justin Wrobleski (11-5)	#164	@ ATH	Gage Jump (6-11)	#102
Wed, Jul 29th	@ LAD	Eric Lauer (8-7)	#314	@ ATH	Jacob Lopez (6-4)	#146
Thu, Jul 30th	@ LAD	Roki Sasaki (5-5)	#106	@ ATH	Mason Barnett (1-4)	#398
Fri, Jul 31st	vs MIN	Zebby Matthews (9-10)	#85	@ LAD	Edgardo Henriquez
Sat, Aug 1st	vs MIN	Connor Prielipp (5-7)	#77	@ LAD	Yoshinobu Yamamoto (13-8)	#8
Sun, Aug 2nd	vs MIN	Taj Bradley (11-6)	#40	@ LAD	Emmet Sheehan (5-8)	#56
Tue, Aug 4th	vs DET	Troy Melton (8-4)	#64	vs CWS	Davis Martin (9-7)	#96
Wed, Aug 5th	vs DET	Drew Anderson (4-6)	#81	vs CWS	Sean Burke (8-7)	#82
Thu, Aug 6th	vs DET	Framber Valdez (10-10)	#46	vs CWS	Luis Castillo (4-11)	#97
Fri, Aug 7th	vs TB	Drew Rasmussen (14-5)	#14	vs ATH	Jack Perkins (3-11)	#135
Sat, Aug 8th	vs TB	Casey Legumina (2-2)	#270	vs ATH	Gage Jump (6-11)	#102
Sun, Aug 9th	vs TB	Ian Seymour (9-6)	#43	vs ATH	J.T. Ginn (9-8)
Mon, Aug 10th				@ TOR	Jameson Taillon (2-6)
Tue, Aug 11th	@ NYY	Ryan Weathers (5-8)	#187	@ TOR	Dylan Cease (11-5)	#4
Wed, Aug 12th	@ NYY	Will Warren (10-6)	#74	@ TOR	Jose Soriano (12-7)	#41
Thu, Aug 13th	@ NYY	Max Fried (4-4)	#17	@ TOR	Max Scherzer (2-8)	#116
Fri, Aug 14th	@ HOU	Peter Lambert (8-9)	#138	@ PIT	Bubba Chandler (8-9)	#109
Sat, Aug 15th	@ HOU	Hayden Wesneski (5-2)	#80	@ PIT	Jared Jones (4-6)	#38
Sun, Aug 16th	@ HOU	Hunter Brown (5-3)	#25	@ PIT	Lake Bachar (1-3)	#181
Mon, Aug 17th				vs ARI	Mitch Bratt (1-3)	#158
Tue, Aug 18th	@ MIL	Kyle Harrison (10-4)	#62	vs ARI	Merrill Kelly (9-13)	#131
Wed, Aug 19th	@ MIL	Dustin May (7-9)	#51	vs ARI	Brandon Pfaadt (7-3)	#115
Fri, Aug 21st	vs CHC	Matthew Boyd (8-5)	#59	vs SF	Logan Webb (8-9)	#20
Sat, Aug 22nd	vs CHC	David Peterson (7-8)	#101	vs SF	Blade Tidwell (0-2)	#170
Sun, Aug 23rd	vs CHC	Shota Imanaga (10-10)	#30	vs SF	Matt Wilkinson (1-3)	#253
Mon, Aug 24th	vs PHI	Zack Wheeler (12-5)	#9	@ MIA	Sandy Alcantara (13-10)	#88
Tue, Aug 25th	vs PHI	Aaron Nola (6-10)	#50	@ MIA	Tyler Phillips (5-6)	#159
Wed, Aug 26th	vs PHI	Jesus Luzardo (14-5)	#18	@ MIA	Ryan Gusto (1-5)	#141
Fri, Aug 28th	@ TOR	Dylan Cease (11-5)	#4	@ NYY	Cam Schlittler (14-6)	#15
Sat, Aug 29th	@ TOR	Jose Soriano (12-7)	#41	@ NYY	Max Fried (4-4)	#17
Sun, Aug 30th	@ TOR	Max Scherzer (2-8)	#116	@ NYY	Will Warren (10-6)	#74
Mon, Aug 31st	@ BOS	Payton Tolle (9-6)	#21	vs SEA	George Kirby (9-11)	#28
Tue, Sep 1st	@ BOS	Jedixson Paez (0-1)		vs SEA	Bryan Woo (12-9)	#11
Wed, Sep 2nd	@ BOS	Patrick Sandoval (1-5)	#111	vs SEA	Bryce Miller (4-9)	#44
Thu, Sep 3rd	vs ATH	Jack Perkins (3-11)	#135	@ BAL	Brandon Young (9-4)	#120
Fri, Sep 4th	vs ATH	Kade Morris (0-1)	#330	@ BAL	Shane Baz (6-15)	#69
Sat, Sep 5th	vs ATH	Jeffrey Springs (4-13)	#203	@ BAL	Chris Bassitt (7-5)	#143
Sun, Sep 6th	vs ATH	Gage Jump (6-11)	#102	@ BAL	Kyle Bradish (7-14)	#61
Mon, Sep 7th				vs LAA	Grayson Rodriguez (4-7)	#95
Tue, Sep 8th	vs TEX	Cal Quantrill (9-5)	#156	vs LAA	Reid Detmers (5-8)	#22
Wed, Sep 9th	vs TEX	Cody Bradford (0-5)	#104	vs LAA	Ryan Johnson (4-8)	#177
Fri, Sep 11th	@ ATH	Jeffrey Springs (4-13)	#203	vs KC	Seth Lugo (7-8)	#139
Sat, Sep 12th	@ ATH	Gage Jump (6-11)	#102	vs KC	Randy Dobnak (3-4)	#391
Sun, Sep 13th	@ ATH	Jacob Lopez (6-4)	#146	vs KC	Noah Cameron (9-8)	#65
Tue, Sep 15th	@ LAA	Ryan Johnson (4-8)	#177	@ TEX	Cody Bradford (0-5)	#104
Wed, Sep 16th	@ LAA	Yusei Kikuchi (1-5)	#68	@ TEX	Jacob deGrom (10-9)	#3
Thu, Sep 17th				@ TEX	Kumar Rocker (5-11)	#117
Fri, Sep 18th	@ COL	Gabriel Hughes (0-8)	#321	@ TB	Ian Seymour (9-6)	#43
Sat, Sep 19th	@ COL	Tomoyuki Sugano (12-9)	#402	@ TB	Freddy Peralta (9-11)	#52
Sun, Sep 20th	@ COL	Ryan Feltner (5-10)	#400	@ TB	Griffin Jax (7-10)	#29
Tue, Sep 22nd	vs HOU	Cristian Javier (2-5)	#113	vs CLE	Foster Griffin (15-5)	#57
Wed, Sep 23rd	vs HOU	Ethan Pecko (1-0)	#122	vs CLE	Parker Messick (11-9)	#35
Thu, Sep 24th	vs LAA			vs CLE
Fri, Sep 25th	vs LAA			vs CHC
Sat, Sep 26th	vs LAA			vs CHC
Sun, Sep 27th	vs LAA			vs CHC
Fri, Mar 27th	vs CLE	Gavin Williams (13-7)	#19
Thu, Apr 16th	@ SD	Walker Buehler (8-6)	#167
Sat, May 9th	@ CWS	Anthony Kay (9-9)	#125
Mon, May 11th	@ HOU	Peter Lambert (8-9)	#138
Mon, May 25th	@ ATH	Aaron Civale (6-7)	#205
Mon, Jun 1st	vs NYM	Austin Warren
Sat, Jun 6th	@ DET	Keider Montero (9-8)	#134
Thu, Jun 11th	@ BAL	Kyle Bradish (7-14)	#61
Thu, Jul 2nd	vs LAA	Walbert Urena (9-10)	#150
Tue, Jul 21st	vs CIN	Chase Burns (15-3)	#31
Thu, Aug 20th	@ MIL	Robert Gasser (4-5)	#93
Thu, Sep 10th	vs TEX	Jacob deGrom (10-9)	#3
Mon, Sep 14th	@ LAA	Reid Detmers (5-8)	#22